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Weapon Spread

Discussion in 'General discussion' started by Skillfreak, Oct 16, 2016.

  1. Skillfreak

    Skillfreak New Member
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    Hello guys,

    I just want to make a little "poll" about the spread.
    In my opinion it would be better if theres almost no spread and no recoil but the weapons take less damage.
    Also give me your opinion about this

    If the spread would be like in this video it would be amazing!


    [+1] I agree with that
    [-1] I don't agree with that
     
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  2. Muhammedtv

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    +1. But if they reduce the spread they HAVE to lower damage abit aswell :) Not to much tho we dont want ppl to tank full mags.
     
  3. kristian

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    +1. <3 I HOPE THEY DO
     
  4. DraefeN

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    Hmmmm, that a very good debatable subject Muhammed.

    Making guns very accurate ( I think u were talking about a kind of DOOM mmo Spread ( which was basically no spread )) would definitely make days after dead less ''random'' for long/medium range battle. On the counterpart that would make spawning really aids as someone VERY far away could hit you very consistently. People on top of roofs and with right peek would be a lot more stronger as well even if damage is tweaked.

    Pros of this : Makes aiming more skillful as randomness is taken out ( makes game more enjoyable for very competitive players who, in most cases don't like randomness. )

    Cons of this : Makes campers stronger aka right peek & spawn killing easier.

    Keeping the spread and damage high as it is right now

    Pro : Making your way into objectives is way easier as people cannot be 100% accurate + people die really fast close range no matter where you shoot them.

    Cons : Randomness which lead to frustration, Long range battle is very depending on the weapon you use and even luck in some cases.
     
  5. DraefeN

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    I will vote +0 as I wouldn't mind seeing both. There's probably a reason that Lars will explain when he wakes up why the spread is like that at the moment.
     
  6. Formrunner

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    +1 the spread shouldent be that low like zmmo but it should be a little bit lower than it is now like with m16 and the m4 should definitaly be reduced.
     
  7. Formrunner

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    i agree, but with spread of the m16 and the m4 and assault rifles in general should be reduced a tad bit.
     
  8. Kaydiddy

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    -1, lets keep the old good WarZ PvP time back as it was at the beginning. You had atleast a challenge for yourself to control the spread so u could be better than other's. So u needed to invest a bit of time and pratice it to get to your level to defeat other's. I think if that will be done it's getting daysafterdead toward all the other already existing "pvp" emulators out there that's destroying the long time factor of the pvp state i guess. In my opinion the old WarZ pvp time was'nt for 0 reason one of the best pvp time ever...
     
  9. DraefeN

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    I don't think M16 is bad atm, nor M4 semi. I dont know to much about the M4 though. Here's a 1k of what you can do with the m16 with the current spread on it. Shot taken 3-4 hours ago.

    https://clips.twitch.tv/draefen112/TenderWombatDeExcite

    I guess you just have to take it chill with the shooting and try to TAP slower than in other ISS. More similar to CS:GO tapping.
     
  10. papajump

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    -1 i like the current one
     
  11. Aphryv

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    +1

    The spread on the Mossberg is silly too,I shot a guy yesturday like 3 foot away and he didn't die.
     
  13. Muhammedtv

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    The spread were NEVER like this in warz, just saying. Seems like some of you trying to defend something with statements that isnt even true. If u guys find any vid on old warz with the current spread i wanna se it :D
     
  14. Lars

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    Hello everybody, good to see everybody is debating friendly :)

    The spread right now is experimental and has always been, I would prefer to see suggestions per gun and not in general. For example, the Woodland Imi-Tar21 has a spread of only "1" if you put a forward grip on it. Telling me to lower the spread on all weapons is gonna make this gun have less than no recoil. That wouldn't make much sense.

    The video @DraefeN posted (https://clips.twitch.tv/draefen112/TenderWombatDeExcite) is a perfect example on how you should shoot from far away. What you said Draefen, that aiming is more skillful if there is almost no spread, is something I can not agree with. All it takes is for you to have your mouse on the player which is increasingly easy if the player is running down a hill towards one point (eg. a fence) because he is running in a straight line.

    Right now, if you tap and shoot instead of spraying from medium-far range, your gun will be extremely accurate. The first shot usually has little to no recoil and you should learn how to play with each gun. The spread resets after a small amount of time (less than a second) and you should learn how to play with this. That is what I personally call skillful. I don't find having your mouse on somebody and spraying skillful. You should learn how to use your weapons.

    In the video you posted @Skillfreak, the person is literally holding his left mouse down while aiming on the player's body. Without barricades, what chance do you have to survive being shot at if you have a pistol and they have a M4 Semi? Meds aren't gonna help because if 9 out of 10 bullets hit, you can't med through it. That is why there is a cooldown on resetting the spread. It gives the other person time to med once, but if you hit 3 headshots within 2 seconds, which is possible if you learn how to tap properly, it is impossible for them to med through it twice because of the med cooldown.

    This does not mean the spread won't be lowered, but as I said, please give feedback on the spread of specific guns.
     
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  15. Sunho

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    Absolutely ridiculous. Why would people want this?
     
  16. DraefeN

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    I wasn't aware that there was a ''patern'' to how the spread was working atm, if the spread actually has a patern then the randomness is not really a good point as I mentioned above. I think keeping the spread as it is right now and doing some tweaking to it would greatly keep the warZ alpha feeling instead of turning this game into a PvP emulator.
     
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